Ready to boost your creativity AND de-stress? Learn how to enter flow state and work on inner critic healing with easy art meditation techniques.
Art Meditation for Entrepreneurs: How to Get Into Flow State and Feel Creative Again
Can art meditation help you feel creative again when your brain feels like it’s doing it’s absolute most?
We usually do our best when we’re feeling calm and inspired. Because you’re not judging or doubting, you’re just in the moment. But as business owners, it feels like there’s zero space for that because we’re overwhelmed with work!
This episode is all about how to be creative again, even when you’re feeling exhausted. Because as entrepreneurs, the best thing you can do to combat burnout is understand how to get into flow state…where your genius lives and thrives.
Jayme Allen, founder of Mood Body Studio, shares how art meditation helps with creativity and inner critic healing, shifting you from judgement or tiredness into that place of playfulness and possibility!
It’s a conversation about self-trust, creative permission, and how to be creative again when you’ve been stuck in output mode for waaaay too long.
What you’ll learn:
- What is Art Meditation and why it’s the perfect desk reset
- Ways to quiet your inner critic and boost your inner creator
- Surprising tools—like crayons and sand—that help reduce stress
- How to Get into Flow State even while doodling
- How to be creative again…especially as a busy entrepreneur
Listen For
TIMESTAMPS
01:01 What is Art Meditation & Jayme’s Journey
07:45 Why Meditation for Entrepreneurs?
08:39 How to Get into Flow State
16:12 Inner Critic Healing and How to Trust Your Ideas Again
22:05 How to Be Creative Again…without pressure
MORE ABOUT JAYME ALLEN
Jayme Allen is an art meditation teacher and founder of Mood Body Studio. She uniquely blends her background in neuroscience with art to help calm your mind, quiet the inner critic and get in touch with your inner creator. Her work has helped thousands of people from kids to adults to get in touch with a more playful, artistic side!
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Website: moodbodystudio.com
Instagram: @moodbodystudio
Youtube: @moodbodystudio
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MORE ABOUT THIS CREATIVITY PODCAST EPISODE
“I started using art meditation as a way to tap into my inner creator…get started with a scribble. If you don’t know what to make, draw a blob or even a flowy scribble.” – Jayme Allen, founder of Mood Body Studio
- Art meditation helps you get into flow state again
- Inner critic healing starts by listening to your inner creator
- How to be creative again without forcing results
- Creativity doesn’t need to make sense to anyone but you
- Simple tools can unlock calm and self-trust…right now
Art Meditation for Entrepreneurs: How to Get Into Flow State and Feel Creative Again
Have you ever stared at your business, your offers, your content ideas and wondered, “How do you get back into that flow state?” Where you feel “so creative and more relaxed” and your ideas arrive without needing to be dragged into the room.
When Creativity Starts Feeling Like Another Business Task
In the first three years of business, creativity can feel heavy. The thing that once felt playful starts carrying strategy, visibility, income goals, and the tiny little panic of “what will other people think?” As Chardét says, “when your income is tied to it, when your livelihood is tied to it,” you can slowly “lose a bit of that part of ourselves where we create and we imagine.”
That is why art meditation feels so relevant for entrepreneurs who are building something real but do not want to lose themselves inside the building. Jayme Allen, artist, meditation teacher, and founder of Mood Body Studio, says, “I now teach art meditation,” but the heart of her work is bigger than art. It is about learning how to create without immediately judging, optimizing, or monetizing the moment.
The question How to get into flow state often gets answered with productivity advice, but Jayme offers a gentler doorway. She describes meditation as a practice of noticing “where your awareness and where your focus goes.” For a founder whose attention is pulled toward emails, content, clients, and decisions, that question can feel like a necessary interruption.
The Inner Critic Isn’t the Whole Story
Most entrepreneurs know the inner critic intimately. She tends to arrive right before the post, the pitch, the price increase, the messy first draft, or the new direction that does not fully make sense yet. Jayme says, “we all have the inner critic,” and she names the deeper fear underneath it: being misunderstood, judged, or seen as too random.
Inner critic healing does not require you to become magically fearless. Jayme says, “My inner critic is very real. She is a part of me,” which is such a grounded reframe. You can notice her, understand why she is loud, and still decide she does not get the only microphone in the room.
What changes everything is Jayme’s idea of the inner creator. “I believe we also have an inner creator,” she says, and suddenly creativity stops feeling like a battle between your ambition and anxiety. Instead, you can ask which part of you has your attention: “Inner critic, inner creator.”
Why Art Meditation Works When Sitting Still Feels Impossible
Traditional meditation can feel frustrating when your mind is already juggling seventeen tabs and a half-finished voice note. Jayme heard this often: “Meditation’s really hard. I can’t sit still. I don’t want to do this. I hate this.” If that sounds familiar, you are not broken. You may simply need a more tangible anchor.
Art meditation gives the mind somewhere simple to land. Jayme explains that “giving them something to do with their hands” created “a concrete place to put the attention.” Instead of forcing your thoughts to float away like polite clouds, you can notice something immediate: the page, the pen, the movement, the sound, the texture.
This is where art meditation becomes less about making art and more about returning to yourself. Jayme talks about “the sound of your marker on the paper” and “the actual sensation of the texture of the tool against the paper.” Those details pull you out of overthinking and back into the present moment, where creativity has room to breathe.
If you have been wondering How to be creative again, the answer may not be a bigger plan. It may be smaller, softer, and much less impressive-looking. Jayme says, “I let myself play in a way I hadn’t done since I was a kid,” which feels liberating when creativity has become tangled up with performance.
A Different Kind of Flow State
Flow can sound like something reserved for people with silent mornings, spacious calendars, and perfectly sharpened pencils. But most entrepreneurs are trying to find flow between client work, launches, content calendars, and the occasional “I need to focus on this offer” spiral. That honesty makes this conversation feel useful instead of idealized.
Jayme reframes flow as something you can access through attention rather than force. She says, “I started recognizing the similar patterns of how I felt in these art sessions and how I felt in my meditation sessions.” That means flow does not always arrive through discipline. Sometimes it arrives through sensory focus and allowing yourself to stop performing.
The most interesting creative breakthroughs often happen when you stop trying to prove that every idea is worthwhile before it begins. Jayme describes “letting go while making art” and receiving “profound ideas and downloads.” For an entrepreneur, that is not fluffy. Insight often needs space before it becomes strategy.
That is also why Jayme’s simplest invitation feels so good: “Get started with a scribble.” Not a brand concept. Not a polished thought leadership angle. Not a validated offer. A scribble. Something that lets your nervous system remember that beginning does not have to be dramatic.
Your Creative Path Doesn’t Have to Look Linear
Jayme’s path moves through “Ugly Hamsters,” stand-up comedy, anxiety, meditation, art, and teaching. On paper, that might look scattered. In real life, it becomes a trail of self-trust.
Many early-stage entrepreneurs pressure themselves to make every choice look cohesive before they have lived it. But Chardét names the freedom inside Jayme’s story: “It’s okay to not have it make sense by traditional standards.” Strategy still matters, but it should not require you to erase the playful, human parts of your story.
A Gentle Framework for Creative Reconnection
Think of art meditation as a framework for attention, permission, sensory presence, and self-trust. Jayme asks, “What are you giving your attention to?” and that question alone can interrupt the loop of comparison, urgency, and productivity guilt that keeps so many entrepreneurs stuck in their heads.
Permission matters because many founders secretly believe creativity has to earn its place on the calendar. Jayme names the thought directly: “This is a waste of time.” But if creativity is where your ideas, voice, and originality come from, treating it like an indulgence eventually dries out the thing your business needs most.
Sensory presence makes this practice accessible. You do not need fancy tools, a studio, or a two-hour ritual with imported candles. Jayme says, “use a ballpoint pen in a basic notebook,” and adds, “you can truly do this with anything.” Very rude of our perfectionism to have no excuses left, but here we are.
Self-trust grows when you begin before you feel fully ready. Jayme’s takeaway is direct: “Trusting your ideas, self-acceptance. You’re good enough. You can start now with what you have.” That is not just creative advice. It is business advice for anyone waiting for more confidence before the next honest step.
The Soft Return to Your Inner Creator
What might change if creativity became a place you returned to instead of a standard you had to meet? Jayme invites people to “relax your face, drop your shoulders, lighten up, have fun.” The business would still need your attention. But maybe you would return with more breath, more imagination, and far less internal static.
Listen to the full Her First Three Years conversation with Jayme Allen for a calmer way back into your ideas. Her perspective on art meditation, Inner critic healing, and creative flow offers a grounded permission slip to “explore and express,” without needing every creative moment to prove its value.
FAQ: Art Meditation, Flow State, and Creativity for Entrepreneurs
What is art meditation?
Art meditation blends art-making with mindfulness, giving your mind “a concrete place to put the attention.”
How does art meditation help entrepreneurs?
It helps entrepreneurs pause the noise and ask, “What are you giving your attention to?” before reacting from pressure.
How do I get into flow state when I feel stuck?
How to get into flow state can begin with Jayme’s simple invitation: “Get started with a scribble.”
What is Inner critic healing?
Inner critic healing means noticing the voice without obeying it; Jayme says, “My inner critic is very real.”
How can I be creative again?
How to be creative again may start with play, because Jayme says, “I let myself play in a way I hadn’t done since I was a kid.”
Do I need to be good at art?
No. Jayme says, “If you don’t know what to make, draw a blob, draw a flowy scribble.”
Why does art meditation feel easier than regular meditation?
It gives you sensory focus, like “the sound of your marker on the paper,” instead of pure mental effort.
Where can I find Jayme Allen?
Jayme shares art meditation through Mood Body Studio, where you can “watch the full process of the art making.”
TRANSCRIPT WITH JAYME ALLEN, FOUNDER OF MOOD BODY STUDIO
Chardét Ryel (00:00)
How do you get back into that flow state? You know, when you feel so creative and more relaxed and you produce your best stuff then, which I know it feels impossible because when you’re an entrepreneur, a founder, a creative, a freelancer, you’re always go, go, go, right. And you feel like, when am I gonna get a moment where I could pause and do something creative? I need to focus on this offer. I need to focus on this client.
And we start to lose a bit of that part of ourselves where we create and we imagine and the things that allow us to really produce stuff we never would have done before without judgment, just kind of to be in the process, like when you’re a kid. So that’s why I wanted to bring you an unusual episode here today. And with a very special person. Jamie Allen is an artist.
Meditation teacher. She is the founder of Mood Body Studio. And what is so interesting about what she does is she combines meditation with art. And so she’s gonna share her whole process here with you today on the podcast, as well as her own journey, which is very interesting and I never would have guessed. So I think for that alone, it’s worth listening just to see. Welcome to her first three years.
From breakdowns to blenders, learn what worked and what didn’t. I’m your host, Sardet, and whether you’re a new entrepreneur or you’re just starting something new, this is your space to learn and feel a little less alone. I’ll see you inside.
Can we start with your creative journey? Because I f I know it’s gonna be an interesting one. I’m really curious.
Jayme Allen (01:51)
Yeah, it’s a great question. It’s a big question. I mean, the creative journey is life, but you know what? Let’s we don’t need to go all the way back to nineteen eighty-six. But I can say, you know, I’ve identified as a creative person and an artist my entire life. And I’ve always had creative side projects. So for most of my adult life, I’ve worked full time, pretty typical, whether it’s retail or corporate nine to five jobs.
But I have survived that by always having a creative side project. And so my outlet, I started a web comic. This is back in like 2013. ⁓ it was called Ugly Hamsters. So totally random. It was a cartoon web comic, I guess, about three ugly hamsters. But I just had this impulse and this urge, and I have always been one to follow through on that. And
Then my husband, I was married when I was in college. My husband had a job opportunity that moved us to Chicago. And I made the decision to drop out of school and go try stand-up comedy in Chicago. I’ve never been afraid to do the maybe silly or risky thing to follow that creative impulse. And everything has led into the next thing. So my webcomic, I learned joke structure, which helps me on stage as a comedian.
I started having severe anxiety about being on stage and how I was perceived, which led me to meditation. And I now teach art meditation. I’m an artist and meditation teacher. I stopped doing comedy and I went more the route of meditation and back to my original roots of art. But when I think about my creative journey, I just think about all the little, you know, maybe silly projects that I did say yes to and how they’ve all been part of the
Stepping stone or the path that got me here.
Chardét Ryel (03:45)
I had no idea it was gonna involve stand up comedy and hamsters.
Jayme Allen (03:51)
I didn’t know what I was gonna share with you to answer that question, but here we are.
Chardét Ryel (03:55)
I think it’s a me it’s a very big testament to what you do in this creative flow, right? Even in thought, the things and stories that come up when you just allow yourself to to dive into it to what you feel called to. And I think as I shared with you, a lot of the audience is feeling this where we’re kind of stuck with the one thing we have to create and do. And when your income is tied to it, when your livelihood is tied to it.
You start to let the other things go because you feel like they’re not quote unquote worth your time. And I admire you so much for like making the time for those things, even though they weren’t necessarily where you saw your career go.
Jayme Allen (04:36)
Something that I’ve overcome is this fear of not being understood and afraid that my story doesn’t make sense or that my journey isn’t this cohesive step-by-step process that makes sense. And and we’ll probably talk more about the inner critic because that’s a huge part of my work. But I’m at a point now where it’s, you know, my story’s my story and the way you express yourself, like it doesn’t have to make sense to anybody else. It doesn’t have to be cohesive by society standards or anything like that.
Chardét Ryel (05:05)
It’s okay to not have it make sense by traditional standards is one of the, I guess, anti-thing you could say to what so many of us have been taught. I remember a business mentor telling me, you can’t take that experience in Spain because what’s your ⁓ story going to be on your resume? And I think we carry that kind of thing with us throughout all that we do. And so to hear, not that we need the permission, but to hear it from you of, you know what, like.
Doesn’t matter, right? You just go and do it. Do you feel though with the inner critic and a lot of the work that you’re doing with that? Can you explain how it comes up and how also the meditation piece can come into that? Because that’s where I’m super fascinated with your work.
Jayme Allen (05:51)
Sure. I mean, I believe we all have the inner critic and we’re probably very familiar with that voice. And, you know, it may be the voice of our parents from when we were younger, or teachers, or friends, or our brain was fully forming. But as adults, we adopt those thoughts as our own. And, you know, we do live in a society that has expectations on what success looks like.
And everything is designed to keep us moving through those steps in a cohesive way. I suppose to go back to the inner critic, for a lot of us, I I’ll speak for me personally and many of those that I talk to and work with, going through the steps like that isn’t what feels aligned. It doesn’t feel most authentic to, you know, whether that’s our creative calling or just what fulfills you, what lights you up. And often we are told doing the
Creative thing isn’t a valid way to live, to make a living, to earn a living. I believe we also have an inner creator. And there’s there might be many voices you could give different names to. And some people might call the inner creator your intuition, your inner wisdom, your higher self. I think that both perspectives are valid. My inner critic is very real. She is a part of me. You know, am I giving her the stage time and could the inner creator?
Have this stage instead and what does that sound like? That’s a big part of my work.
Chardét Ryel (07:21)
And first off, I love that you put in the inner creator as another element of ourselves because that is someone that we don’t think about. And I think when you bring in that as well as the critic, it’s not that opposition anymore between you and the critic. But you you were going to say then how this kind of relates into meditation and then also into the art piece that you
Jayme Allen (07:44)
Right. Okay. So meditation, I mean, there’s many different reasons why someone might meditate. There are, I think you can have different goals. You know, you might be seeking meditation for stress relief to connect more with yourself, you know, quiet the mind. For me, part of meditating is to be intentional with where your awareness and where your focus goes. What are you giving your attention to?
And I started using meditation as a way to tap into my inner creator and really form the habit of listening to her and putting my attention on her. And so and now just during the day I can check myself, like where is my attention? Inner critic, inner creator. So I can shift to inner creator. So that’s one element of meditating that has worked really well for me. But it
Chardét Ryel (08:32)
I
feel like what’s interesting is you take it even deeper because you bring in the visual and the sensory as well.
Jayme Allen (08:39)
Yes, absolutely. So I started meditating, just self-guided on my own in my early stand-up days to kind of help cope with the like anxious feelings getting on stage. So I enrolled in a meditation teacher training program and became certified talking to people, you know, started hearing the stories, the anecdotes. Meditation’s really hard. I can’t sit still. I don’t want to do this. I hate this. For people who are wanting
To feel like the meditation is helping them more immediately, giving them something to do with their hands was a quick way to, I don’t want to say bypass, but but have a concrete place to put the attention, where sometimes it can be a little bit ethereal to kind of like watch your thoughts like clouds floating by. It it’s the concept may not be so easy to grasp, but when you say have a pencil in your hand and feel the texture of the pencil against your paper.
listen to the sound of your marker on the paper, that is easier for people to maybe hook into and detach from what’s, you know, the monkey mind, the mind chatter, and focus on something that’s happening here and now. So, you know, that’s that’s part of also how I was led to combining art and meditation.
Chardét Ryel (09:57)
I’m gonna ask you more about how you really thought to put those together because that is really intriguing to me. But I think first the thing that you were saying about, you know, the think of the clouds and your thoughts like clouds. That’s the standard headspace app, you know, we we that’s what people start with and it’s so hard, but you’re right that when I sit down to paint, for example, an hour and a half can go by and my mind has only been on that.
When I sit down to meditate and I’ve gone to monasteries and all this stuff, I can get a couple good minutes, but it still is very it’s more of a struggle, right? It’s a lot harder. You do feel like you’re fighting yourself a little bit. So that tangible piece I think could really help some people here listening. Yeah. Have you how did you then decide, okay, this is my method? So I have the certification meditation. I understand how to bring it in.
The art piece I’m guessing you always did a little bit of art or was this also something that came a little bit later?
Jayme Allen (10:57)
Essentially I had this meditative experience. It was a breathwork session where I just saw myself returning to art and teaching others. I let myself play in a way I hadn’t done since I was a kid, you know, using crayons, you know, elementary tools and things like that. And I started to drop into these flow states that were very similar to what I was feeling in meditation. But it would give me these pockets of immense relief. And then over time, I just felt like I was.
Really coming back, like I said, to myself, I was getting these profound ideas and downloads and writing in a way that I had never written before. And it was all coming from this letting go while making art. So I started recognizing the similar patterns of how I felt in these art sessions and how I felt in my meditation sessions. I started listening to guided meditations. And instead of closing my eyes, I would look at the paper.
And sort of follow the meditation while I drew. And I was writing my own meditations, listening to my own voice, and it sort of just snowballed from there, I suppose. And I started teaching classes at my workplace and people were having experiences with me and and you know, one thing led to the other, as they say.
Chardét Ryel (12:19)
What are some of the kind of experiences that have come up from doing this that you’ve seen with people, the things they’ve shared with you, or and it doesn’t have to be specific people, but just generally.
Jayme Allen (12:30)
I get messages every day and they are so moving. I think some general themes. I get a lot of parents who reach out, they start doing my art meditations with their children. And I really love the stories I get about maybe the neurodivergent children who are able to sit and focus or just, you know, spend time with their parent connecting in a way that they haven’t before. I get a lot of messages from people who might be healing from physical injury or chronic illness who, you know
have difficulty, you know, creating in ways that maybe they used to. People who are feeling like I have not been confident enough to create without, you know, the self-judgment creeping in and getting me to stop since I was a kid.
Chardét Ryel (13:14)
When you’re working with people or even just what they share with you related to this, what are some of the initial issues or blockages or obstacles they’re coming up against? And I think you already named one, which is really common, of focusing on the outcome of your drawing, for example. Is it pretty? Is it nice? Do these colors work? And I imagine that’s one, but I’m sure some other things, it surfaces stuff, you know, when you’re drawing, when you’re thinking like that.
Jayme Allen (13:42)
Yeah, I mean, it’s I’m not good enough. I have no artistic skill. I don’t know what to make. So therefore I will not even start. Then there might be the, you know, what will other people think? What will other people say? And even if there’s no intention to share, that voice is still there. It’s like, well, what if someone, you know, finds this later? What are they gonna think? Worry of what others might have to say about it stops a lot of people.
And it’s when I dive into that, it’s so interesting because it’s like, well, I’m I’m not sharing this with other people. Hmm. I don’t have time for this, or it’s not productive enough for me to make time for it. This is a waste of time. Because again, we’re taught like if it can’t be monetized, or if the intent is to ultimately monetize it or put it in a gallery for some accolades, why bother? ⁓ yeah, those are the kind of the few big ones that pop up.
Chardét Ryel (14:32)
It’s interesting the what you said about what if someone sees it, right? But even though you know probably no one is going to in this situation where you’re just creating it for yourself, but it is hard to not always think about that external thing in any element, right? Like people listening will be thinking about this in their entire business, playing with the idea of a service or a product, but what if that
You know, doesn’t come across well before they even start going through that creative process of, well, let me just play. Like let me just see.
Jayme Allen (15:07)
Yeah. Yeah. Like the you know, letting the inner child come through and take over. I say this a lot, but relax your face, drop your shoulders, lighten up, have fun. You know, let this be a time for you to explore and express and that is purpose enough.
Chardét Ryel (15:23)
Yeah. And also it’s unlocking. I’m almost feel it’s unlocking this creative flow superpower that you have when you’re younger of just creating to create to be in the moment. And maybe something comes out of it and maybe something doesn’t, but you’re not playing as a kid because, you know, as you said, because you’re monetizing it or because you think it’s gonna be something for someone else later. You’re just there and then think about how
many things you create because of it at that stage.
Jayme Allen (15:56)
Absolutely, yeah.
Chardét Ryel (15:57)
Do you have so this is me putting you on the spot a little bit. Is it possible at all for us to kind of guide people through a mini one here? I don’t know what tools or what what you need to do that, but just so they can experience it.
Jayme Allen (16:12)
Absolutely. I mean, I do follow, you know, when I when I do my art meditations in a a proper workshop, say, you know, it might be hard to get it in a snippet on social media, but my YouTube videos or my workshops, I do often follow a structure. So I can just share that structure here. ⁓ but when you’re ready to begin an art meditation session, pick an intention.
Find your space where you want to be seated, or maybe you’re standing or lying down. Most people probably sit when they do their their drawing or their doodling. And then first, I like to always check in with the space, just the energy of the space around you. You know, move from the space to your body. So we start by going from the outside in, right? So space, body awareness. I’ll do a heart center check-in, just awareness of my heart space. Then I’ll bring my awareness to my breath.
I might take a few deep breaths, like in through the nose, really sigh it out. I always put my hands on my paper and I’ll greet my paper. So I’ll, you know, say out loud, hello, my friend. We’re going to create something today. Again, just to lighten the mood and remind myself it’s not that serious. Get started with a scribble. If you don’t know what to make, draw a blob, draw a flowy scribble. Like you can do that. You can certainly draw a scribble and let go of what
visually is happening on the paper and lock into something sensory. I find that most people connect with either the sound. So the sound of whatever tool they’re using against the paper, or perhaps it’s the physical touch. So the the actual sensation of the texture of the tool against the paper. And you know, sometimes I’ll just use basic wax crayons on watercolor paper, you know, inexpensive beginner-friendly watercolor paper.
Because they’re it it’s so delicious to feel it or to hear it, right? That right there, stay with that for five, ten, fifteen minutes. It doesn’t have to look like anything, right? You can follow instructions and do a, you know, an exercise if you want. It could just be infinity loops over and over. And then, you know, when your mind starts to wander, which it will, you know, off to the past, that is normal.
That’s the human brain for ya. When you notice that, bring it back to your anchor in the present moment. So that sensory anchor. And just do your best to hold your focus on that anchor. And that’s the practice. Notice your mind wandering, you bring it back to the anchor. Notice the mind wandering, bring it back to the anchor. And then to close it out for yourself when you’re finished and you put your tool down. Thank you, paper. my goodness, we made something. I’ll I’ll chat with my paper.
And then I’ll move from the inside back out. So I’ll take some deep breaths, move to my heart space, check in with my body, and then I’ll end by just noticing the energy of the space around me. Has anything shifted? How does it feel? You’re just working on that art of noticing and placing your awareness somewhere with intention.
Chardét Ryel (19:23)
What I really love about it though is that the way you’ve set it up, it’s I could be sitting at my desk and it could be two PM and I’m feeling like, I could take a coffee or tea right now. But I could also just sit at my desk, pull out the paper and do this as almost a recharge, a reset. That’s a tiny, you know, doable thing. I know not everybody can go out and go for a walk in the middle of the day or go for a workout or whatever it is, but this is something that you can do. ⁓
To reset your intentions and to kind of break up the flow of the day.
Jayme Allen (19:56)
Yes,
use a ballpoint pen in a basic notebook. Like you can truly do this with anything.
Chardét Ryel (20:01)
I w I think you could get really really ⁓ creative about the tools you use. What’s the most interesting one that you’ve used or you’ve heard someone use before? I like to
Jayme Allen (20:12)
Use kid tools a lot, like the children. I’ll go to the children’s art supply section of stores. What I love about that is they’re low pressure, they’re accessible, they’re usually less expensive. Whatever you can do to give yourself permission to like, yeah, this doesn’t have to look any certain way, you know. But I stick with tempera paint sticks and acrylic markers tend to be my go-tos. But I’m gonna I’ll have to follow up with you and try to get try to get a little strange.
Chardét Ryel (20:37)
Do you know what I’m thinking about in particular related to this is have you seen those this was a couple years ago, so I don’t know if it’s as popular now, but those videos where they have they’ll take acrylic paint, I think, little dots, put it on a paper, and then use one of those wingy squidgey. A squidgy, yeah, and just create designs flowing through. When you were talking about this, it’s like, it’d be great to do a little squidgy tool listening to one of your meditations.
Jayme Allen (21:07)
You know what? Yeah, I’m gonna have to try that. I have like a a notebook full of all the ideas. That’s going in the notebook now. So Yeah, exactly.
Chardét Ryel (21:17)
I mean th what you create too is also when you’re just watching it feels that way as well. So I’ll definitely recommend people see your Instagram to see it because it does make you stop and reflect. So if you’re someone who’s like, I’m not gonna take out the pen and paper right now, you can just watch a sixty second reel. Yeah. I wanted to ask you though this is a curiosity question and it’s totally not related to what we’ve just been talking about, but it is related to your story. Do you feel that there’s any sort of connection?
Or what is the connection between what you’ve done with the with the comedy and the art? And, you know, what do you feel is the the thread that is connecting this stuff? Because I think it’s interesting just to for people to think about that in their own lives. What’s the thing that’s connecting everything?
Jayme Allen (22:05)
Okay, for me, the through line is honoring and trusting my own ideas, building the belief in self that if you have an idea, however random it might be, go for it. So many people won’t even start or try the thing because it’s I could there’s a laundry list of reasons. It’s silly, there’s no purpose, it’s not gonna go anywhere, it’s too hard to start from scratch. I don’t know what I’m doing, I don’t know.
I don’t know how to start. I don’t have the right tools. You know, I’ll start someday when I have fill in the blank, more resources. Ultimately, what I’ve gotten out of all of this is a level of just self-acceptance. I truly have such a harsh inner critic. And I think everyone thinks their inner critic is the meanest. Like, you can’t get worse than mine. Like the voice in my head’s pretty mean to myself, but have lived through this process of.
Doing the things, whether they make sense or not, or they’re silly or not, or whatever. So I I guess that’s also the through line. Trusting your ideas, self-acceptance. You’re good enough. You can start now with what you have. And then ultimately being able to help other people on a similar journey, but their own, their own but similar journey.
Chardét Ryel (23:23)
I think it’s incredible that you have brought in this idea of self-belief with art and meditation throughout what you’ve said, because it is yeah, something that I think everyone is struggling with, especially our particular niche here. So it is helpful to hear that and what a like amazing way to think about it, the through line that you had.
As a final question for you, because we were only able to dive into so much here. And I think also what you do is very much best experienced visually and guided. Where can people connect with you? Where can they find more of your art meditations? How can they engage and like kind of test the waters?
Jayme Allen (24:05)
Instagram and TikTok is at Mood Body Studio. That’s also my YouTube. And I have long form videos on my YouTube channel where you can watch the full process of the art making, but then have a guided meditation experience as well. I also have an audio only podcast of guided meditations. A lot of that content is not anywhere else because it’s meant to just, you know, you can listen to it while you draw. You can also listen to it with eyes closed.
And that is called creative meditations.
Chardét Ryel (24:38)
So whether you’re audio, visual learner, whatever it is, you’ll find different ways to engage with this. And I would really encourage people, you’ll find links in the show notes. And I know for me it was I don’t like I didn’t tell you this before we met, but I don’t really like being on Instagram. But when I find ⁓ videos like yours and the work that you’re doing, it just feels like such a blessing because it’s a moment
of a reset and something I wouldn’t have discovered another way. So I really recommend that for people too if you find yourself doom scrolling. Go to Mood Body Studio. ⁓ and thank you so much for being here and for sharing your story, which is so interesting and definitely creative and I love that.
Jayme Allen (25:13)
Yeah.
Yeah.
⁓ I really enjoyed talking to you and grateful that you’re doing this.
Chardét Ryel (25:25)
And thank you so much for listening. Remember to go find Jamie’s work because it is so relaxing, so flow state. It’s kind of like if you’re in a high stress situation or you just need to decompress. It really is that. Stop the scroll on Instagram or YouTube, or even if you’re just more of an audio person to go here. And also please share this with anyone else in your life who you know is in a lot of high stress situations.
Maybe who would appreciate getting back in touch with their art or just their creative side. I think they will very much appreciate it. And I will see you in the next one. If you laugh, learned, or felt a little less alone, please leave a review on App or Spotify and subscribe. Come back for more. We are building a community of women to tear down the BS around business and grow in real authentic ways together.
