Networking for Entrepreneurs: Why Podcast Guesting is like GOOD Speed Dating for founders

Networking for entrepreneurs isn’t about meeting more people, it’s about being in the right room and podcast guesting? It’s amazing way to get in front of a hot audience.

 

 

My fav way to network and grow an online community is with podcast collabs.

Instant audience.

Instant trust.

And build powerful relationships with other business owners, coaches, founders and thought leaders.

Think of it like speed dating…the really curated, good kind, where you know you’ll meet great people from the moment you book.

BUT…that’s only if you do it right.

In this marketing episode, we’re looking at how to be a great podcast guest, why podcast booking is NOT just a numbers game, and how to get booked on a podcast as a guest without sending the copy-paste pitch that makes hosts ghost you.

I also cover the 10 biggest podcast guesting mistakes from how you pitch to how you show up for your episode and the follow-up afterward.

 

TIMESTAMPS

• 00:00 — Networking for entrepreneurs without the cringe
• 03:20 — Borrowed audience, borrowed trust, and a connection that lasts
• 07:45 — Why podcast collabs grow your visibility for longer
• 09:20 — How to be a great podcast guest without turning it into a sales pitch
• 15:15 — Podcast booking mistakes to avoid at all costs

 

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a smart way to grow your visibility beyond social media and get in the right rooms, with people whose audiences already want to hear from you.

 

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“Networking for entrepreneurs now is less about working the room, giving your spiel, numbers game, it’s more about having the right conversations.” – Chardét Ryel, Podcast Coach and Visibility Mentor 

 

• Networking isn’t about working the room — it’s getting in the right one.
  
• Podcast guesting lets you borrow trust and attention quickly.

• The best collabs feel less like pitching and more like chemistry.

• A great podcast guest connects with the host and the audience.

• You don’t need a bigger audience, you need better conversations.

 

What if networking for entrepreneurs didn’t have to feel like walking into a room full of strangers, clutching your coffee, and silently rehearsing your “what do you do?” answer like it’s a tiny TED Talk?

Because for a lot of early-stage business owners, networking still carries a bit of emotional baggage.

It can feel performative.
A little awkward.
Slightly forced.
And occasionally like business speed dating in bad lighting.

You know the energy.

Everyone wants to sound impressive. Everyone wants to make the right connection. Everyone wants to leave with something useful, but no one wants to feel like they’re trying too hard.

That’s where the reframe matters.

The best networking doesn’t happen when you try to convince a room to care about you. It happens when you enter the right room already aligned, already relevant, and already connected by trust.

That’s why podcast guesting deserves a much bigger place in the conversation around business growth, especially for women entrepreneurs in the first three years of business. It’s not just a visibility tactic. It’s a relationship strategy. And when you approach it well, it can feel less like “please notice me” and more like, “Oh, this is exactly where I’m meant to be.”

 

Why Networking for Entrepreneurs Feels So Different Now

Old-school networking often relied on proximity.

You went to the room. You introduced yourself. You handed out business cards. You hoped someone remembered you after the cheese plate disappeared.

Online business changed the room, but it didn’t remove the emotional discomfort.

Now the “room” might be Instagram, LinkedIn, a Facebook group, a virtual summit, a podcast interview, or someone’s inbox. The pressure still exists, though. Many entrepreneurs feel like they need to become more visible, more polished, more available, more consistent, and somehow more interesting every single day.

No wonder visibility starts to feel exhausting.

Social media can absolutely work. Content can build relationships. A strong online presence matters. But when all your business growth depends on being noticed in a fast-moving feed, you can start creating from performance instead of connection.

That’s a very quick route to content fatigue.

Podcast guesting offers a different kind of discovery. Instead of trying to stop the scroll, you get to sit inside a real conversation. Listeners hear your voice. They feel your rhythm. They understand how you think. They get a more human sense of your work than a single post or carousel can usually give.

That kind of attention feels rare now.

And rare attention builds trust.

 

The Good Version of Business Speed Dating

Let’s talk about the speed dating comparison, because yes, it could sound mildly horrifying at first.

Nobody wants their business growth strategy to feel like a sequence of awkward mini-dates where everyone has seven minutes to prove they’re interesting.

But podcast guesting, when done well, is like the good version of speed dating.

Not random.
Not chaotic.
Not “please pick me.”

More like pre-curated connection.

You’re entering a conversation where some alignment already exists. The host has an audience. That audience trusts the host. The host invites you into the room because they believe you have something useful, interesting, or meaningful to share.

That introduction matters.

Instead of cold-pitching strangers on the internet, you’re being introduced through trust. Instead of trying to explain your entire value in a short caption, you have space to share your perspective. Instead of competing with endless content, you get to become part of someone’s listening experience while they’re walking, driving, cooking, or taking a break from the noise.

That is powerful.

The listener doesn’t need to decide everything immediately. They simply get to ask: Do I like how this person thinks? Do I trust her energy? Does her perspective feel relevant to where I am right now?

That’s often how business relationships begin.

Not with pressure.
With resonance.

 

Podcast Guesting Builds Borrowed Trust

One of the most overlooked benefits of podcast guesting is borrowed trust.

When a host invites you onto their show, they are not just giving you airtime. They are lending you credibility with their audience.

In a world where people feel overwhelmed by options, that kind of trust transfer matters. The listener may not know you yet, but they know the host. If the host has built a meaningful relationship with their audience, your presence already comes with a subtle recommendation.

It sounds like: “I think you should meet her.”

That is very different from trying to interrupt someone’s attention cold.

This is where networking for entrepreneurs becomes more strategic. You stop thinking only about reach and start thinking about relevance. The goal isn’t simply to get in front of more people. It’s to get in front of the right people in a context where they can actually receive you.

A smaller, highly aligned audience can often create more meaningful momentum than a large audience that has no real connection to your message.

Because visibility without trust often creates noise.

Visibility with trust creates movement.

 

Why Podcast Guesting Works Beyond Visibility

A podcast guest spot does more than help new people find you.

It can deepen your authority. It can open the door to partnerships. It can create referral opportunities. It can help people understand your perspective in a fuller, more nuanced way.

Most importantly, it helps you practice being heard.

For early-stage entrepreneurs, that matters more than we often admit.

You’re still clarifying your message. You’re still learning which stories land. You’re still figuring out how to talk about your work in a way that feels true, not robotic. A podcast conversation gives you space to refine that in real time.

Listeners don’t just hear what you do. They hear how you make sense of problems. They hear what you notice. They hear what you care about. They hear the emotional texture behind your expertise.

That builds a different kind of connection.

A well-matched podcast guest spot can work like a relationship bridge. It connects you to the host, the audience, potential collaborators, future clients, referral partners, and people who may come back to your work weeks or months later.

Podcast episodes also have a longer shelf life than many social posts. People can discover them long after the release date. That gives your ideas more room to breathe.

 

The Difference Between Being Visible and Being Memorable

Many entrepreneurs chase visibility because they believe more attention will solve the problem.

Sometimes it helps.

But attention alone does not build a business.

People remember you when your message lands in a moment that feels relevant to them. They remember you when you say something that names a feeling they’ve had but couldn’t quite articulate. They remember you when you bring clarity to a problem they’ve been circling for months.

That’s why podcast guesting can feel so effective.

You have more room to be specific. You can tell the story behind the insight. You can explain your perspective without squeezing it into a trending audio or a graphic that needs to hook someone in half a second.

This doesn’t make social media bad. It simply means podcast guesting offers a different role in your visibility ecosystem.

Social media can help people notice you.

Podcast guesting can help people feel like they know you.

That distinction matters.

How to Be a Great Podcast Guest Without Turning It Into a Pitch

A lot of entrepreneurs want to know how to be a great podcast guest, and the answer starts with a mindset shift.

You are not there to perform a monologue.

You are not there to squeeze in every credential, offer, client result, and personal backstory before the host asks the next question.

And please, with love, you are not there to turn someone else’s podcast into your private sales webinar.

The best podcast guests understand the room they’ve entered. They respect the host. They care about the listener. They bring stories, insight, and presence. They know the conversation should feel generous, not transactional.

A great guest creates chemistry.

They listen. They respond. They share ideas in a way that feels alive. They remember there is a real person on the other side of the microphone and another real person listening later.

That relational energy changes the entire episode.

It also changes what happens after the episode.

When the host enjoys the conversation, they may share it more enthusiastically. They may remember you for future opportunities. They may refer someone to you. They may invite you into another room.

This is the part many people miss: podcast guesting is not only about the audience.

The host relationship matters too.

 

How to Get on a Podcast as a Guest Without the Cringe

If you’ve wondered how to get on a podcast as a guest, start by thinking less about your pitch and more about your fit.

Podcast hosts receive a lot of generic messages. Many of them sound the same. “I’d love to be on your podcast.” “I have an inspiring story.” “I think your audience would love this.”

Maybe true.

Still not enough.

A strong pitch shows that you understand the show, the audience, and the specific conversation you could add. It gives the host a reason to imagine the episode. It makes the fit easy to see.

That’s where many entrepreneurs lose the opportunity. They lead with themselves instead of the listener.

Credibility helps, of course. Your experience matters. Your story matters. But the host needs to understand why this conversation belongs on their show now.

The best pitches feel considered. They don’t feel like you copied and pasted them into fifty inboxes while whispering “numbers game” under your breath.

Podcast booking works best when it feels aligned from the beginning.

 

How to Get Booked on a Podcast as a Guest With More Intention

The question isn’t only how to get booked on a podcast as a guest.

The better question is: Which rooms are actually right for your message?

That changes everything.

Being invited does not automatically mean an opportunity fits. Some shows won’t align with your values. Some audiences won’t need your work. Some conversations won’t support the direction you’re building.

A strategic entrepreneur knows the difference between exposure and alignment.

This matters because the right podcast guest spot can create a ripple. The wrong one can drain your energy and leave you wondering why the whole thing didn’t work.

Before you chase bookings, get clear on your message. Understand what you want to be known for. Notice which conversations bring out your strongest ideas. Think about whose audience would genuinely benefit from hearing your perspective.

That clarity makes podcast booking far more effective.

It also makes the experience feel better.

You stop trying to prove yourself everywhere and start choosing rooms with more discernment.

 

A Smarter Way to Grow

Here is the deeper truth: many early-stage entrepreneurs don’t need more random visibility.

They need more aligned conversations.

That’s a relief, isn’t it?

You may not need to post more, shout louder, redesign your entire brand, or become the most polished version of yourself overnight. You may simply need to find the places where your voice can land with more trust, more context, and more time.

Podcast guesting can become one of those places.

It gives your ideas space. It lets your personality come through. It helps people understand your work beyond the surface. It turns networking into something warmer, more human, and more sustainable.

That’s the kind of growth that doesn’t ask you to abandon yourself to be seen.

It asks you to become more intentional about where you show up.

 

The Future of Networking Is Relationship-Led

The next era of networking for entrepreneurs will not belong to the loudest person in the room.

It will belong to the clearest.

The entrepreneur who knows what she stands for. The one who builds trust before asking for commitment. The one who chooses aligned rooms over crowded ones. The one who treats every collaboration as a relationship, not a quick extraction.

Podcast guesting fits beautifully into that future.

It slows the pace just enough for trust to form. It brings nuance back into visibility. It lets listeners meet you through conversation, not just content.

And when the right people hear you in the right context, something shifts.

You stop chasing attention.

You start building recognition.

Not from everyone.

From the people who actually matter for your next stage of business.

 

Listen to the Full Episode

If networking has felt awkward, performative, or like another business task you “should” be better at, this episode will give you a calmer and more strategic way to think about it.

Listen to the full episode of Her First Three Years to hear the deeper conversation on podcast guesting, aligned visibility, and why the right room matters more than the biggest room.

 

FAQ: Networking for Entrepreneurs and Podcast Guesting

What is networking for entrepreneurs?

Networking for entrepreneurs is the process of building strategic, trust-based relationships that support business growth. It can include collaborations, referrals, podcast guesting, community partnerships, and conversations with aligned people who share relevant audiences.

 

Why is podcast guesting good for entrepreneurs?

Podcast guesting helps entrepreneurs build visibility, authority, and trust with aligned audiences. When a trusted host introduces you to their listeners, you benefit from borrowed trust and a deeper format that lets people hear your voice, ideas, and perspective.

 

How do I get on a podcast as a guest?

To get on a podcast as a guest, focus on alignment before pitching. Choose shows with audiences who would benefit from your message, then offer a clear and relevant conversation angle that makes sense for the host and their listeners.

 

How do I get booked on a podcast as a guest without a big audience?

You do not need a huge audience to get booked on a podcast as a guest. Hosts often care more about your story, expertise, perspective, and fit for their audience than your follower count. A specific, thoughtful pitch usually works better than a generic credibility list.

 

How can I be a great podcast guest?

To be a great podcast guest, treat the episode like a conversation, not a sales pitch. Bring useful insights, listen well, engage with the host, speak to the listener’s needs, and follow up after the episode airs.

 

 

FULL TRANSCRIPT WITH CHARDÉT RYEL

Chardet Ryel (00:00)
We’re always told to network, to build relationships, to get in front of audiences. And there are so many ways you can do that. But one of my favorite ever ways is actually through podcast collapse. Now, some of you have done these before and it didn’t work out the way you wanted. You’re going to want to listen because we’re going to go into why that is, as well as how to think about them a little bit differently. Because the way you think about this,

is really going to determine how successful you are.

Welcome to her first three years. From breakdowns to blunders, learn what worked and what didn’t. I’m your host, Sade, and whether you’re a new entrepreneur or you’re just starting something new, this is your space to learn and feel a little less alone. I’ll see you inside.

Do I really wanna do something that is like speed dating? And here I feel like I’ve gotta clarify because I know some of you are like, okay, Chardét, ⁓ I don’t want another awkward date for my business. I want this to feel nicer. That’s why I listen to this show. And I get it. So this is not gonna be something that’s about having a bunch of dates you don’t enjoy and cringy. This is more like the best speed dating version you can imagine.

where it’s pre-curated and you know going in, there is going to be some sort of match and each conversation feels like it is a stepping stone for more. Why this is important. So biggest reason of course is that growing your network and building relationships is the way that you grow a business always has been. Being online is no different. So networking for entrepreneurs now is less about working the room, giving your spiel,

numbers game, it’s more about having the right conversations. I want you to think about first, when was the last time you tried to network? And how did it feel? Did you feel like you were creating a real connection or that you were trying to prove your value super quickly? If it felt good, why?

If it felt bad, why? For those of you that said it was good, it was probably because you felt like you really connected with at least one person and maybe it led to something deeper. For those of you that said no, you didn’t have that experience. So what if networking for you and promoting your business could feel more like just having a nice conversation, being invited to do it, being put in a room where you’re directly relating to a person

And by extension, that message is going out to many, many others. It feels a little bit better, right? It is the process of building strategic trust-based relationships that support your business growth. And the way they do that is borrowed audiences, like podcast collabs that we’ll talk about today, and community connection. So when you’re networking, you’re building this. It’s not just about selling. The three things that you get.

from a podcast collab that are so valuable for your business, for your brand, for everything you create is one, a borrowed audience, two is borrowed trust, and three is building a relationship. A lot of people forget number three, but that is very important, building a relationship with a host as well. And I think about this a lot too because when I started my first business 13 years ago, I paid to have a ton of business cards made.

And I think I got the cheapest card stock I could, which you could feel it. And I got maybe 500 because you always had to buy them in the pack there. And I made it a mission in my first year as an entrepreneur to go to at least one networking event per month because I saw the value there. And at this time, most of the stuff was in person. I got rid of, or I passed out, I should say, maybe seven cards.

I didn’t consider that to be a win. So we want to show you a more engaging way. I know that’s not the way anymore anyways, but I want it to feel less failure like that and more exciting, more like relationship building, more visibility, more authority and more building audience trust. So I compared speed dating to podcast collabs or podcast collabs to speed dating and I’ll go more into detail about that. But what is

dating apps then. I don’t think for any of you who listen, this is not going to be a surprise. But for me, social platforms are like dating apps. They are profile based discovery. People are scrolling, they’re browsing, they’re comparing, they’re saving, they’re lurking, and sometimes they are swiping. So your content for your business acts like your profile.

And when someone sees that, they’re asking, do I like their vibe? Do they seem like a real person? And is whatever they’re talking about or who they are, is it relevant to me right now? Do I care? This is not bad. Not inherently. Dating apps can work. We all know people who they worked for. Social media also works. We all know people who it worked for. But it’s important to understand that dating apps and social media depend on the same things.

First impressions, strong hooks, consistency, meaning always showing up, headlines, gotta catch them, right? The logarithms, timing, the person being in the mood to engage, and the person not being distracted by 100 other options. And the issues that if 100 % of your energy is going into that for promoting your business, you start to feel like

I need to make myself more noticeable and everything you create is around that. And that then means you lose some creativity, you lose some alignment and it starts to feel really overwhelming. A lot of content burnout comes on, but there’s another option. This is why I say podcast collabs, they’re more like conversation based discovery. Just like in speed dating, you have a conversation. People hear how you think, they feel your energy.

They get to spend time with you. They decide, do I want to do more? Podcast collab, same thing. They hear your voice. They sense your rhythm. They see the unfiltered you, especially when you’re a guest on someone else’s show. It’s almost impossible for you to not have a real moment. Your vulnerability is going to come out because you can’t control every aspect of it. When you write, you can control it.

When you record a video, you can control it. This is where you really come out and that’s why it is one of the most powerful ways for you to connect. It’s just like having a conversation with someone else. And the person you’re having a conversation with is saying to all their, to their people, I think you should meet her. With speed dating, just as in pod collabs, it’s not about committing instantly.

It’s about finding alignment quickly. This is really important to hear because a lot of us, go on podcasts and we want people to instantly become our partners. We want them to buy instantly. Doesn’t work that way. They are on there to see is there chemistry with this person? Is there, am I curious enough to know more? Is there a reason to continue this conversation? The great thing is, that

you’re not just connecting with an audience, you are actually also connecting with the host. Very, very important because many people go on a podcast and they think of it as a time to have a sales pitch to captive listeners and they are there to just sell, sell, sell and convert. That kind of episode never performs. So we don’t want to do that.

I had an instance where, especially, I think this was a couple years ago, I had a business coach come on the show. She had results for her clients. Her credibility was not in question. She was really effective. But when she came on the show, it was all about her. So there wasn’t a real dynamic with me. It was almost like I was just the stage dummy for her to just spiel everything out at. And she was selling every other sentence. This episode was so bad, so we never…

aired it. You’re not trying to win the room when you get on a podcast. You are just letting the right people hear how you think. You go on them as a way to test for audience overlap, for shared values, referral potential because remember it’s not just the person listening. It’s also their friends, their family that they might share your episode with.

It’s who the host might refer to you if they really enjoyed that conversation. A lot of people forget about that. And it’s future collab energy because I’ve had people who say, I heard your podcast. I want to collab with you. I’ve also had hosts say, Hey, you were on my show. Let’s do this together. And I’ve done that with guests as well. So we want to think about this podcast collab as it’s not just sell, sell, sell. There is a much bigger value.

And doing this, just like an Instagram, right? You’re not supposed to always sell, sell, sell. There is some nuance to it. Opening a door to different things that you can do. So your action step here is for you to make a list of three people, podcast or community. So even though we’re talking about podcast collabs, I think you can use this advice for pretty much any kind of collab with another person. So if podcasts don’t feel right for you,

Think of a person you just wanna collab with or a community you wanna get in front of. Name three. Don’t worry about pitching them just yet. Just notice if there is alignment. So you just make the list. And if this is really difficult to think about, some things that can help you is, of course, who would you want to partner with? Whose audience would benefit from a conversation you love having?

who is already speaking to the person you want to reach. So all of these, notice, are about the audience and not just you. And they can be really helpful for identifying these collaborations. So the task right now is not to pitch. It’s just to know who to go after. And I will say this, this is really important. Before you pitch anything, make sure you truly understand your message, why it’s different, the value that you bring. And if you don’t know how to do that,

Remember there is that private podcast I have, The Secrets to Standing Out Online. It’s free. You can get it in the show notes on the website, Her First Three Years, or on my Instagram. And that’s really helpful before, because we even talk about podcasts, collabs in there. So helpful to listen to before you go out and pitch, because you want to really understand what you’re about first. If you think about it on podcasts, people are spending real time with you.

On social media, they might give you three seconds. On a podcast, they might give you 30 to 60 minutes. This is extremely powerful. Now also with guesting, it’s highly targeted. You choose aligned audiences. Please don’t pitch everyone. It’s more intimate, right? Your voice, your vulnerable stories. It’s evergreen. That episode keeps working for you, not just when it’s released. And please, please remember this. It is relational.

You build connection with the host, not just the audience. You just built a really strong connection that would be so hard to do in the old bro and broken networking style. Now this is where it gets a little fun. We’re going to talk about here, podcast collab mistakes that feel a little bit like dating app mistakes. So there are 10 here and these are very big.

Please don’t make them. They will totally nullify any chance you have of pitching on a podcast or really any collabs. Mistake number one, the hey message. So the dating app version is the person who just sends you hey. That’s it. Nothing else. The podcast collab version is the entrepreneur or the coach or whoever who pitches, I’d love to be on your podcast. And that’s it. There is no indication that they understand what your audience needs.

that the conversation is right. have been pitched so many times, so many times, and this is like wild, by agencies representing men who are doctors for male enlargement. I run, you know, two female podcasts. It’s like, think about, think about who you’re sending your message to. Mistake number two.

The profile that says just ask, the dating app version is, you know, in the bio, just ask and they feel like that’s enough. They want to be mysterious, but really it doesn’t work. And the podcast collab version is the same. If you don’t have a clear angle, if you expect the host to just know what it is, in fact, if you expect just your credentials to speak for themselves, that’s not going to work, right? I’ve had a lot of people pitch me and say, I’ve got a million people on my sub stack.

I have whatever hundreds of thousands on TikTok. That’s great. I’m glad you have a community, but if you can’t even think about the angle for being on the show, then I already know you’re probably not gonna be a really strong podcast partner. That’s the truth. Mistake number three, swiping right on everyone. ⁓ the dating app version of this is the person who you know is basically just doing the numbers game.

The podcast collab version of this is pitching every podcast you can find, sending the same template, not doing any sort of work to really think about why that show. I mean, maybe you could get away with this five years ago when being a guest on a show wasn’t as popular, not anymore. And these are deleted on site. I even have keywords now that are filtered out and it goes straight to spam. Don’t do that.

Don’t pay an agency to do that. In fact, if you go to a podcast agency and they guarantee you an insane amount of pitches per month, walk away because I can tell you exactly the kind of crap that they’re sending is what’s going in my spam box. Mistake number four, making the first message all about you. The dating app version is the person who messages their full life story, their emotional baggage, their resume, what they’re looking for in a partner.

It’s a lot and it’s way too soon. didn’t ask. They didn’t ask you anything. The collab version is really similar for a podcast. It’s the pitch that says, I’m amazing. Here are all my credentials. Here’s my backstory. Here’s everything I’ve ever done. Would love to talk about myself on your show. Doesn’t work. Your credibility, it does matter, but the host audience matters more. So the pitch, the goal is not to prove how impressive you are. Yes, you want to include credibility points.

But the real goal here is to show that you understand the room that you are asking to enter. Mistake number five, using old photos and hoping for the best. Dating app version is you’ve got that profile photo from 2017. Different haircut, different era. Maybe you’re even a different person. The podcast pitching collab version of this is outdated bios, old headshots, broken links.

confusing website, make sure that when you pitch that it is up to date with who you are, what you’re doing, and that your stuff works if you’re gonna share it. Now the next few mistakes are very important as well because some of us, we are really good at the pitch. We get on the show or we even get invited, but we don’t always successfully walk away from that experience. And I don’t mean just you get clients or conversions, but really,

Do people even appreciate the episode? Mistake number six falls into this. So talking only about yourself on the date. It would be you finally meet, you have a coffee, you have a drink, they monologue for 47 minutes. The podcast collab version is the same thing. You go in there, every question you’re asked, you turn into a lecture, you don’t really engage with the host, and you kind of forget there’s a listener or even another person there.

The best guests that I’ve ever had on the show are really good about actually asking questions back to me. I’m not the person being highlighted, but they understand it’s a conversation. And so this really is something to focus on in any collab you do. Mistake number seven, asking for commitment before trust. So the dating app version would be you go on the first date and they’re already talking about moving in, meeting your friends and family. It’s a lot too soon.

The podcast collab version is the guest who jumps straight in in that conversation to the hard sell before the audience even knows you. You know, this is the person I told you whose episode I wasn’t able to air. Mistake eight. And this is one that I think even some of the best guests and the most well-intentioned people forget. And I will be honest before I started my podcast, I didn’t even think about this either, but it’s very important. No follow up after a great date.

There’s chemistry, good conversation, you laugh a little bit and then nothing. You’re ghosted. The podcast collab version of this is you record a great version with a great episode with someone and then you disappear. You don’t thank the host. You don’t share the episode. It’s not just bad manners, but it’s also the case that you have really ended any future opportunities with that person or their audience.

Mistake number nine. ⁓ this is one where I think we fall into this really with everything we do, but especially with podcasts. Expecting instant sparks. One day it doesn’t end in fireworks. So you decide the whole thing was a waste of time. The podcast guesting collab version of this is you go on one podcast, you don’t get 10 clients overnight and you decide that podcast guesting does not work.

might not be working because of all the other things we shared in this episode, right? Mistake number 10, this is the last one. Ignoring red flags. They say something that’s completely not okay for you and you convince yourself it’s probably fine. The podcast guesting collab version is you say yes to any podcast invite. So someone wants you on their show, you say yes, but the audience is wrong. The host values don’t align.

Being invited doesn’t automatically mean you should go into the room. Sometimes the right strategic move is to say no. And that’s it. Remember what we’ve talked about here. And for those of you who are like, I need it really summed up really fast, tell me now. Let’s go lightning round. Are podcast collabs a good networking strategy? Yes. Podcast collabs are a powerful networking strategy because they let you as an entrepreneur

build relationships with hosts while also being introduced to warm, aligned audiences. How does podcast guesting help entrepreneurs grow? Podcast guesting helps you grow by increasing your visibility, building your authority, borrowing trust from established hosts, giving listeners a deeper experience of your voice and your expertise. And all of that really is done in a way that is evergreen. Lastly, is podcast guesting

better than social media. They work together, I would say. You can choose one or the other if you want, of course. But podcast guesting allows you to build deeper trust because listeners are spending more time with your ideas, your stories, and your voice. Now, I hope that you have seen how this can be so powerful for you, that you don’t need more content, that you don’t need to be on more apps. You just need more aligned.

conversations and that the next stage of your growth, it doesn’t necessarily mean you need a huge audience. It means that you have one conversation with the right person. As you’ve listened to all of this, if it really has gotten you excited about podcast guesting, I again would stress so much that you truly understand what your message is, what your story could be. If you don’t know, if you don’t feel 100 % strong about that,

Please, please listen to Secrets to Standing Out Online, the private podcast, completely free, 10 episodes, mini ones, less than 10 minutes, and it’s going to help you step by step figure out the message that would get someone to say yes, and will also really captivate their listeners. So you can get that private podcast in the show notes on the Her First Three Years website, and also on my Instagram, CharleeRael. Thank you, so.

much for listening and remember that the right room, being in the right room, matters more than the biggest room. I will see you in the next one.